Let's talk about the problems in Australia for a change!

pood said:

Kanky, from the Urban Dictionary.

A new one to me. I don’t see any connection to Australia, though.

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Makes sense, but it's a new one on me. I must be old.

pood said:

I also recently learned “facemaxxing,” which is about young Gen Z imbeciles changing their features, including apparently with surgery, to look “better.”

And, sure enough, some imbecile U.S. military official recently used the term “forcemaxxing” to describe the war on Iran.

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Ugh.

Ah, Australia. Lovely country. If you're white.

Patooka said:

Australia's Immigration policy is nothing short of fucking obscene, and is the reason I stopped voting Labor years ago. Although I'd say the biggest threat to Australia's democracy is that it has no meaningful opposition party in Federal politics. The Coalition is barely functional and that's in spite of the overwhelming support they receive from AM radio, Murdoch and Channel 9. When Parliament thinks it's bullet proof that's when all the really bad ideas bubble to the surface.

Also, just refer to us as cunts instead of aussies. Trust me, it's a time saver.

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Probably one of the biggest Ponzi Schemes in Australia's history.

"The economy’s dependence on immigration, rather than productivity growth, has piqued the interest of Martin Conlon, head of Australian equities at Schroders, who is “betting against Australia’s great Ponzi scheme”—i.e., the economy’s unsustainable mix of high house prices and immigration:

An economy driven by, and dependent on, very high house prices that are supported by what Conlon says are unsustainable levels of immigration, is not healthy, and cannot last in the long term.

“It’s easy to stand back and say, oh, don’t worry, we can keep on importing people to hold up a Ponzi scheme. No one’s ever been able to hold up a Ponzi scheme forever,” Conlon says. “Affordability has to matter, global competitiveness of wages has to matter. It gets more dangerous when you move a long way away from sustainable policy”.

Conlon is seeking to short companies and sectors exposed to housing growth, such as banks heavily reliant on mortgage lending and developers and property-linked businesses.

While his view about Australia’s Ponzi economy is certainly correct, Conlon’s contrarian stance is risky because government policy often intervenes to support housing. Mass immigration is also used by policymakers as a growth driver.

However, Conlon argues that high debt levels and affordability constraints will eventually force a correction.

Private businesses like toll road operators, retailers, banks, property developers, and education providers love mass immigration because they get to enjoy the easy growth in revenue and profits that comes from an ever-expanding customer base.

Meanwhile, households suffer from the increased competition and reduced bargaining power at work, rising housing costs, rising infrastructure costs, a degraded environment, and longer and more expensive commutes.

The hidden costs of a ‘Big Australia’ essentially consist of massive private taxes, which the government conveniently ignores."

Politesse said:

Ah, Australia. Lovely country. If you're white.

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Yeah, that's certainly still a problem here, but far less so than it was half a century ago. Oddly it serms to have been the response to our involvement in Vietnam that was a major contributor to this - the inherent racism of Australians was offset by our inherent sense of fair-play, so lots of Vietnamese refugees were allowed to come here due to our understanding that we made it impossible for them to live under communist rule, and (as so often) they turned out not to be terrifying and alien, but rather to be industrious and to add to our rather boring cuisine.

Something similar happened after WWII, with Italians and Germans too.

But sure, Australia started out no less racist than Apartheid era South Africa - the key difference being that it wasn't necessary to hold down a large population of aborigines, because there wasn't one left, at least anywhere near any major white settlements.

We still have a major problem with racism, but it's definitely improved a lot; Whether those improvements can be reversed by Pauline Hanson's mob remains to be seen - they will certainly give it a good try.

DBT said:

"The economy’s dependence on immigration, rather than productivity growth"

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I don't see any such dependence. Immigration to Australia is really hard, and keeps getting harder - our migration policies absolutely don't support the belief that there's an intent to use immigrants to grow the economy (though it might be a good idea if we did, as it certainly worked in the mid C20th).

Traveling around Queensland two decades ago with my grandmother (she is visibly Mexican, I am not) was unpleasant at times. Something akin to an Oklahoma or an Idaho on the "Racism of US States Equivalency Metric". Beautiful land, questionable folk. Even the folk are a mixed bag. I like the "We're all friends here" vibe of Australian popular culture, not so much the "We're going to say something fucking horrific and then pass it off as a 'joke'" part.

bilby said:

DBT said:

"The economy’s dependence on immigration, rather than productivity growth"

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I don't see any such dependence. Immigration to Australia is really hard, and keeps getting harder - our migration policies absolutely don't support the belief that there's an intent to use immigrants to grow the economy (though it might be a good idea if we did, as it certainly worked in the mid C20th).

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If there is little perceived benefit in mass immigration, why do it? We have it, our government is doing it. Why? To improve livability? To ease congestion in our already congested cities?
There is a reason why the Albanese Government increased immigration with their Big Australia aspirations, which is, increasing demand, stimulating the economy, economic growth. Which is, as the article outlines, basically a Ponzi Scheme.

Bronzeage said:

I don't see how anyone in Australia could have a problem. I mean other than the unusual number of venomous animals, crocodiles, emus that march into machine guns, bad tempered kangaroos, and the numerous invasive species. If you stay on the coast and avoid the places where it's so hot humans and animals go underground during the day, what could one find to complain about?

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Sharks.

The flies, mosquitoes.....

Toni said:

Bronzeage said:

I don't see how anyone in Australia could have a problem. I mean other than the unusual number of venomous animals, crocodiles, emus that march into machine guns, bad tempered kangaroos, and the numerous invasive species. If you stay on the coast and avoid the places where it's so hot humans and animals go underground during the day, what could one find to complain about?

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Sharks.

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That's covered by staying ON the coast.

bilby said:

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This is a popular coffee mug and T-shirt design here in Oz.

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Must be a Qld thing. Never seen it in Melb.

Bronzeage said:

I don't see how anyone in Australia could have a problem. I mean other than the unusual number of venomous animals, crocodiles, emus that march into machine guns, bad tempered kangaroos, and the numerous invasive species. If you stay on the coast and avoid the places where it's so hot humans and animals go underground during the day, what could one find to complain about?

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Always foreigners and tourists.

Bronzeage said:

Toni said:

Bronzeage said:

I don't see how anyone in Australia could have a problem. I mean other than the unusual number of venomous animals, crocodiles, emus that march into machine guns, bad tempered kangaroos, and the numerous invasive species. If you stay on the coast and avoid the places where it's so hot humans and animals go underground during the day, what could one find to complain about?

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Sharks.

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That's covered by staying ON the coast.

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The 2-legged sharks are a problem in Oz.

And the ever delightful Amy Shark (not to be considered with the 2-legged sharks mentioned above.

DBT said:

The flies, mosquitoes.....

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C'mon mate. Our major life forms.

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Patooka said:

Imagine if we describe "Seppos"

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You do that and we just might start calling you hoons, kankys or bandana benders. Actually, I found a list of about 80 terms that can be used to insult Australians.


Are we silly enough yet?

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Hoons refers to those who do donuts in vehicles, though can also be used generically for hooligans. Never heard of kankys. It's banana bender, not bandana bender, and that refers specifically to Queenslanders, just as sandgropers refers to Western Australians. It's hard to insult Australians with these terms, as we use them ourselves.

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Gum suckers for Victorians.
Corrupt clowns in NSW.

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Tigers! said:

The late Peta Murphy proposed a bill for paliament to consider

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I bet 3:1 it will never be brought to the floor.
Any takers?

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More likely a Federal Bill will be passed and then kick the responsibility to the states. to enact it And then some lip service which will amount to sweet fuck all.

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So, you want to take the bet!
As I suspected - Aussies can’t resist gambling.

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I will tell mum to pay up. She bet me $10 you wouldn't say that.

Politesse said:

Ah, Australia. Lovely country. If you're white.

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Stay in the sun for >4 hours and you will not be white. A furious shade of red.

bilby said:

Politesse said:

Ah, Australia. Lovely country. If you're white.

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Yeah, that's certainly still a problem here, but far less so than it was half a century ago. Oddly it serms to have been the response to our involvement in Vietnam that was a major contributor to this - the inherent racism of Australians was offset by our inherent sense of fair-play, so lots of Vietnamese refugees were allowed to come here due to our understanding that we made it impossible for them to live under communist rule, and (as so often) they turned out not to be terrifying and alien, but rather to be industrious and to add to our rather boring cuisine.

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It was the communists who it hard to live under communist rule, not others - all those re-education camps and forced labour gangs and so on.

DBT said:

bilby said:

DBT said:

"The economy’s dependence on immigration, rather than productivity growth"

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I don't see any such dependence. Immigration to Australia is really hard, and keeps getting harder - our migration policies absolutely don't support the belief that there's an intent to use immigrants to grow the economy (though it might be a good idea if we did, as it certainly worked in the mid C20th).

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If there is little perceived benefit in mass immigration, why do it?

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I percieve a significant benefit in it, certainly economically. The strongest years economically in Australia were always times of significant immigration.

DBT said:

We have it, our government is doing it.

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No, we don't. And no, they're not - quite the opposite. Migration is a tiny fraction of what it was in the '60s and '70s. Nobody can come here just by waving a ten poind note and being a white English-speaker anymore.

DBT said:

Why? To improve livability? To ease congestion in our already congested cities?
There is a reason why the Albanese Government increased immigration with their Big Australia aspirations, which is, increasing demand, stimulating the economy, economic growth. Which is, as the article outlines, basically a Ponzi Scheme.

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Not really. A Ponzi scheme pays dividends from the investments made by new marks. Australia doesn't collect investment funds from migrants in any serious way (visa fees are fairly expensive at the personal level, but are a minuscule blip in the Commonwealth budget); And Australia doesn't pay out cash dividends based on prior investments made.

Historically, migration is a win-win - the migrants get a better life, and their new country gets a stronger economy, because migrants bring their education and skills with them, and need not be educated at public expense while producing zippo for two decades like native-born citizens do.

The losers are the countries from which the migrants come - they lose their most innovative and daring people, and get to keep the lazy and cowardly ones.

Tigers! said:

bilby said:

Politesse said:

Ah, Australia. Lovely country. If you're white.

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Yeah, that's certainly still a problem here, but far less so than it was half a century ago. Oddly it serms to have been the response to our involvement in Vietnam that was a major contributor to this - the inherent racism of Australians was offset by our inherent sense of fair-play, so lots of Vietnamese refugees were allowed to come here due to our understanding that we made it impossible for them to live under communist rule, and (as so often) they turned out not to be terrifying and alien, but rather to be industrious and to add to our rather boring cuisine.

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It was the communists who it hard to live under communist rule, not others - all those re-education camps and forced labour gangs and so on.

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The quickest way to those re-education camps and forced labour gangs and so on was to be known to have assisted the Australians or Americans.

Hence our duty to get those who had helped our forces out of harm's way.

Something similar happened in Afghanistan, when the seppos bailed - but they left the locals who had helped them in the lurch.