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Which movie did you watch today and how would you rate it?

Didn't Xavier die in the third X-men movie? How did they fix that?

I think you had to listen to an off-hand remark by Moira McTaggert about transferring bodies and then stay until the end of the credits or something like that. I don't remember exactly.

Something like this was actually done in the comics when Xavier's body got taken over by an alien. His mind was transferred into a new body and for some time he could actually walk and wanted to lead the X-Men in battle. Ultimately, though his mind reverted to a paralyzed state and he was back in the wheelchair.

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Batman vs Superman, and then Superman Man of Steel the revamp. Both were too long. I admire Batman's archetype and think Superman's is the tuff of an idyllic world we'll never get close to, so each was kind just meh.
 
American Honey 4/5

I'll skip the plot and just let you know that Sasha Lane has a very irritating smile. She smiles in almost every scene. Very unpleasant. She does beam with the naivety her roles demands, but I think that is more natural personality than acting talent.

Movie would be trash without Shia LaBeouf, who had some manic energy and signature charms. Half of the actors and actresses were not professionals. They looked like people I know. Ugly rednecks and such. They were not very good at their acting jobs, but still LaBeouf carried them.

Sweet little love story that ends with an irritating smile and a stupid alternative song, but LaBeouf makes it worth a watch, if you're into practically unscripted movies with bizarre method acting.

The IMD sums it as a teenage girl with nothing to lose, joins a traveling magazine sales crew, and gets caught up in a whirlwind of hard partying, law bending and young love as she criss-crosses the Midwest with a band of misfits.

I've known those traveling magazine scumbags. Don't trust em'. LaBeouf is pretty good, and he did seem to tap into the right feelings to make it bearable. Believable. Without him there would have been no movie, and without Sasha Lane's excruciating smile it would have gotten more points from me. Subtract her smile and I give it 6/10 for originality.
 
Assassin's Creed
6/10


I never played the game. Just saying.

5 points off the movie right off the top for being stupid. Ancient super secret assassination group openly wears necklaces designating them as such. They also tattoo their FACES in case you missed the necklaces, which I'm sure aids in their anonymity. Perhaps they wouldn't need to wear hooded outfits all the time, if they just didn't TATTOO THEIR FACES!!!!! They need to use weapons and their bodies as weapons for their purposes, so since fighting to the death against their numerous enemies isn't much of a challenge they like to maim their hands, just to prove their dedication. :facepalm:

Luckily their enemies also like to wear capes and hoods during special occasions, so it's easy to infiltrate when just a tuxedo won't do.

If you don't think about it too much, the concept is pretty cool. Trying to link a person's muscle memories to an earlier ancestor through the DNA of a person in modern times in order to find out things about the ancestor's past. How they actually link real memories is one of the fantasy parts of this movie as is the playback for the characters watching Michael Fassbender's character Cal jerk around like a marionette attached to a machine called the Animus.

Must have been really strange movie to film. On the one hand the actor actually engages in choreographed fighting with other actors, and on the other, he recreates them all on his own, like shadowboxing. I can't imagine how anyone kept a straight face while he was bouncing around in a harness and trampoline.

Neither party is lily-white. One group seeks to destroy human violence by controlling everyone and violently opposing those that try to stop them. The other group seeks to stop them using hyper violence so free will to kill each other remains a viable option in any situation.

The Assassins aren't superhuman but their never-ending strength while doing fantastic Parkour is yet another thing that makes you think "They were taken prisoner, locked up in a dungeon for weeks probably, chained, starved, abused - the Inquisition was not known for its hospitality - but boy, can they come up with the energy when they need it."

The historical scenes are gorgeous to look at if you just ignore the inaccuracy of them.

The modern scenes are rather dumb as well. One of the more unbelievable parts is a man sentenced to death for killing a pimp. In another, son escapes death squad. Well, if a kid with no training could do it, why not his parents who had extreme training?

I don't even want to get into the eyerolling biblical stuff.

Stupid and dumb, but a great mindless action flick for when you have nothing else to do.

Oh, and one positive point back for Michael Fassbender taking off his shirt. :D
 
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War Horse 9/10, cuz I love Spielberg, and I'm a sucker for animal movies where the animal gets to live, and go home, even when most WWI Brit cavalry horses went to the glue factory regardless if they had prior owners or officers tried buying them at auction to keep them around. I'll go finish my good cry now.
 
Didn't Xavier die in the third X-men movie? How did they fix that?

I think you had to listen to an off-hand remark by Moira McTaggert about transferring bodies and then stay until the end of the credits or something like that. I don't remember exactly.
Yes, he was hiding in another body at the end of X3, but his body was quite literally split atom from atom by the Super Duper Dodecalevel Mutant Jean Gray. I would have said spoiler alert, but X3 doesn't deserve spoiler alerts.

So why is his body just fine now?
 
Didn't Xavier die in the third X-men movie? How did they fix that?

Or, as they say in comic books, 'Didn't Xavier "die" in the third X-men movie?'

Days of Future Past altered the timeline, but Xavier was already feeling better before then. Generally, you will be better off it you pretend X3 never happened, it belongs in the dustbin with X-Men Origins: Wolverine. They are both horrible steaming piles of crap.
 
Have any of the students of supposedly high end school ever gone onto college?

Hank McCoy (Beast) has Ph.D.s in Biophysics and Genetics.

OK, so in a school he's run since the 60's, there's one graduate who's gone on to get a post secondary degree. Clearly, this is a top tier educational institute. I went to a private school and over 95% of the graduates went on to a top ranked university. That's what's expected of a decent school.

He's keeping these kids uneducated and ignorant so that they won't have the intellectual tools to be able to question the directives he puts out into the echo chamber. Additionally, they aren't given any skills yo be able to make it in he world on their own, leaving them with no real choice except to remain in Xavier's bubble.

Cult leaders wish they could put together a setup like this.
 
Logan is set in an alternate reality.
Days of Future Past wasn't, as far as I'm aware.
technically you're both wrong.
i am hiding this because it's a giant fucking wall of nerd and there's no need to take up space in the movie review thread with this block of text.
if you care to find out how the x-men films can all be reconciled, read on.


per Logan, it's safe to assume that in the film's continuity, the first x-men movie happened (several events in it are directly referenced - notably logan being a cage fighter, and the incident at the statue of liberty).
also per Logan "the x-men" exist as a pop-culture item (ie, the x-men comics shown in the film) which makes a reasonable suggestion that X2, X3, first class, days of future past, apocalypse, origins: wolverine, and the wolverine are all in fact movies within the pop-culture of this continuity, and none of them are canon per the movie's timeline.

now, if you want to try and actually make sense of the timelines and reconcile every movie, it's possible but you need to follow the chronology of the canon instead of the films themselves, and it actually makes sense.

original timeline: (with no time travel, this is the timeline that leads to a future of adaptive sentinels that wipe out mutants and/or put them in camps)
all the bits of origins: wolverine prior to the vietnam war > first class > the "past" events of days of future past (original timeline) > origins wolverine post vietnam war> x1 > x2 > x3 > the wolverine > the "days of future past" future with the sentinels and such.
(side note: in the beginning of x3 there is a lesson being given in the school about how a strong enough telepath could force their mind into the body of another person, but it would ethically be murder since the other mind would cease to exist.
there is also a throw-away during the film that there is a hobo in a coma on muir island who is brain dead.
there is also a post-credit scene where patrick stewart's voice comes out of the hobo.
this is basically the setup for professor X being there in the post-credit sequence of 'the wolverine')

the altered timeline: (after wolverine goes back in time and alters the future by stopping the creation of the adaptive sentinels)
all the bits of origins: wolverine prior to the vietnam war > first class > the "past" events of days of future past (altered timeline) > x-men apocalypse > ???? > more or less the events of X1 > ??? > Logan
(days of future past erased x1, x2, x3, the second half of origins: wolverine, and the wolverine.)

so, if you want to stick strictly with the canon...
Logan's continuity assumes that the events of X1 more or less happen (cage fighter, statue of liberty incident) but whether that means that X1 happened the same way regardless of days of future past, or if another set of similar events happened with different details, the movie doesn't say.
professor X being alive and well strongly suggests that this is the altered future from the days of future past timeline, which means that after x-men: apocalypse (and whatever crap they churn out next) the film continuity eventually leads to X1 more or less happening again, but there's no suggestion that X2 or X3 happen in any form.

 
Days of Future Past wasn't, as far as I'm aware.
technically you're both wrong.
i am hiding this because it's a giant fucking wall of nerd and there's no need to take up space in the movie review thread with this block of text.
if you care to find out how the x-men films can all be reconciled, read on.


per Logan, it's safe to assume that in the film's continuity, the first x-men movie happened (several events in it are directly referenced - notably logan being a cage fighter, and the incident at the statue of liberty).
also per Logan "the x-men" exist as a pop-culture item (ie, the x-men comics shown in the film) which makes a reasonable suggestion that X2, X3, first class, days of future past, apocalypse, origins: wolverine, and the wolverine are all in fact movies within the pop-culture of this continuity, and none of them are canon per the movie's timeline.

now, if you want to try and actually make sense of the timelines and reconcile every movie, it's possible but you need to follow the chronology of the canon instead of the films themselves, and it actually makes sense.

original timeline: (with no time travel, this is the timeline that leads to a future of adaptive sentinels that wipe out mutants and/or put them in camps)
all the bits of origins: wolverine prior to the vietnam war > first class > the "past" events of days of future past (original timeline) > origins wolverine post vietnam war> x1 > x2 > x3 > the wolverine > the "days of future past" future with the sentinels and such.
(side note: in the beginning of x3 there is a lesson being given in the school about how a strong enough telepath could force their mind into the body of another person, but it would ethically be murder since the other mind would cease to exist.
there is also a throw-away during the film that there is a hobo in a coma on muir island who is brain dead.
there is also a post-credit scene where patrick stewart's voice comes out of the hobo.
this is basically the setup for professor X being there in the post-credit sequence of 'the wolverine')

the altered timeline: (after wolverine goes back in time and alters the future by stopping the creation of the adaptive sentinels)
all the bits of origins: wolverine prior to the vietnam war > first class > the "past" events of days of future past (altered timeline) > x-men apocalypse > ???? > more or less the events of X1 > ??? > Logan
(days of future past erased x1, x2, x3, the second half of origins: wolverine, and the wolverine.)

so, if you want to stick strictly with the canon...
Logan's continuity assumes that the events of X1 more or less happen (cage fighter, statue of liberty incident) but whether that means that X1 happened the same way regardless of days of future past, or if another set of similar events happened with different details, the movie doesn't say.
professor X being alive and well strongly suggests that this is the altered future from the days of future past timeline, which means that after x-men: apocalypse (and whatever crap they churn out next) the film continuity eventually leads to X1 more or less happening again, but there's no suggestion that X2 or X3 happen in any form.


Or maybe, maybe, it's just a bunch of stories with no logical way to reconcile them, and the creators never bothered to, because no one really cares except a few comic book nerds?
 
Or maybe, maybe, it's just a bunch of stories with no logical way to reconcile them, and the creators never bothered to, because no one really cares except a few comic book nerds?
in other words "fuck you and fuck using my brain, because nerds"

well i'm convinced.

Wow. touchy subject.

But really, *maybe* the storylines are not meant to be reconciled? Is that not a possibility?
 
Wow. touchy subject.
you show up unannounced and unasked for in a conversation that has nothing to do with you and insult the participants.
you're politely told to fuck off, and now you think you have some standing to further mock other people.
so, no it's not a touchy subject at all - it's that you're being a fucking douche, so piss off.

But really, *maybe* the storylines are not meant to be reconciled? Is that not a possibility?
sure why not, but then we wouldn't be having a conversation about it, there wouldn't be any forum posts on the subject, and the entire function of discussion and human interaction regarding the exchange of information and ideas on a fundamental level is undercut because you don't like people talking about things you're not personally interested in.
 
in other words "fuck you and fuck using my brain, because nerds"

well i'm convinced.

Wow. touchy subject.

But really, *maybe* the storylines are not meant to be reconciled? Is that not a possibility?
Looks like we have a Terminator franchise fan over here. :D

Sarah Connor: Wait... what do you mean all that other shit from the last three times didn't work. Why?!
Terminator: $2.1 billion worldwide gross
Sarah Connor: Wow! Should we even bother trying?
Terminator: Don't see why, they can just make another movie and explain why that didn't matter either.
Sarah Connor: *cracks open a beer* Ah shit, we are out of ice.
Terminator: ...
Sarah Connor: *looks at Terminator*
Terminator: *sigh* I'll be back
 
The Revenant, 3/10; Stars Leonardo DiCaprio as a hunter in some miserable looking backwater, Canada I think. I had high hopes for this movie but it was not my cup of tea. It starts off reasonably well with some action as the hunting party are attacked by natives. Some of them escape and are being pursued by the natives. The main character is attacked by a bear and badly injured. After this it was a lot of moaning and groaning and the movie really slowed down. I threw in the towel after an hour. It may have gotten better.
 
Or maybe, maybe, it's just a bunch of stories with no logical way to reconcile them, and the creators never bothered to, because no one really cares except a few comic book nerds?


Considering how much retconning happened in the "canon" of the comic books over the decades, I can't be too fussed with how a handful of movies are reconciled. I own Uncanny X-Men from #95 through past #300, and many comics of the ancillary series such as X-Men, X-Factor, New Mutants, Excalibur, and it's all quite a mess. In fact, it was partially due to all the time travel and alternate reality crossovers that I finally decided to stop collecting. Oh, yeah, and the bone claws... sigh.
 
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