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You should tell this to the other WP, because he keeps insisting that there was something wrong with these protests.
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You should tell this to the other WP, because he keeps insisting that there was something wrong with these protests.
No one. Various organizations of various sizes and views are leading themselves. One person started the Women's March but she just made a post. She didn't make thousands of women respond.
No one is in charge. This is not an alternative fact. It's that little bit of reality that right wing authoritarian followers fear the most, I think.
People whose ventures into thinking go no further than being a cog in a hierarchical machine don't get the concept that not everyone is such a slave, and that crowds of independent humans could come together for a purpose without needing a leader to make it all happen or direct anyone's movements. We direct our own movements. There's no one "at the top" to attack. We're just the People of humane values who are not addled by right wing cognitive disease and who recognize the current threat of fascism for what it is.
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So why didn't you think it was a Breast Cancer survivor group?
Because you don't relate to that either, do you?
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No one. Various organizations of various sizes and views are leading themselves. One person started the Women's March but she just made a post. She didn't make thousands of women respond.
No one is in charge. This is not an alternative fact. It's that little bit of reality that right wing authoritarian followers fear the most, I think.
People whose ventures into thinking go no further than being a cog in a hierarchical machine don't get the concept that not everyone is such a slave, and that crowds of independent humans could come together for a purpose without needing a leader to make it all happen or direct anyone's movements. We direct our own movements. There's no one "at the top" to attack. We're just the People of humane values who are not addled by right wing cognitive disease and who recognize the current threat of fascism for what it is.
I've only started looking at the background
There is an article which surprisingly comes from the NY Times which a colleague sent me by email.
I don't yet have any comments on it other than I would not put this sort of thing past Soros though I would like to see a direct source that show's where the money is coming from if it was true.
http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenint...0-partners-of-the-womens-march-on-washington/
Billionaire George Soros has ties to more than 50 ‘partners’ of the Women’s March on Washington
What is the link between one of Hillary Clinton’s largest donors and the Women’s March? Turns out, it’s quite significant
ASRA Q. NOMANI
01.20.17
Really? UniteWomen.org, another partner, features videos with the hashtags #ImWithHer, #DemsInPhily and #ThanksObama. Following the money, I pored through documents of billionaire George Soros and his Open Society philanthropy, because I wondered: What is the link between one of Hillary Clinton’s largest donors and the “Women’s March”?
I found out: plenty.
By my draft research, which I’m opening up for crowd-sourcing on GoogleDocs, Soros has funded, or has close relationships with, at least 56 of the march’s “partners,” including “key partners” Planned Parenthood, which opposes Trump’s anti-abortion policy, and the National Resource Defense Council, which opposes Trump’s environmental policies. The other Soros ties with “Women’s March” organizations include the partisan MoveOn.org (which was fiercely pro-Clinton), the National Action Network (which has a former executive director lauded by Obama senior advisor Valerie Jarrett as “a leader of tomorrow” as a march co-chair and another official as “the head of logistics”). Other Soros grantees who are “partners” in the march are the American Civil Liberties Union, Center for Constitutional Rights, Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. March organizers and the organizations identified here haven’t yet returned queries for comment.
On the issues I care about as a Muslim, the “Women’s March,” unfortunately, has taken a stand on the side of partisan politics that has obfuscated the issues of Islamic extremism over the eight years of the Obama administration. “Women’s March” partners include the Council on American-Islamic Relations, which has not only deflected on issues of Islamic extremism post-9/11, but opposes Muslim reforms that would allow women to be prayer leaders and pray in the front of mosques, without wearing headscarves as symbols of chastity. Partners also include the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), which wrongly designated Maajid Nawaz, a Muslim reformer, an “anti-Muslim extremist” in a biased report released before the election. The SPLC confirmed to me that Soros funded its “anti-Muslim extremists” report targeting Nawaz. (Ironically, CAIR also opposes abortions, but its leader still has a key speaking role.)
Another Soros grantee and march “partner” is the Arab-American Association of New York, whose executive director, Linda Sarsour, is a march co-chair. When I co-wrote a piece, arguing that Muslim women don’t have to wear headscarves as a symbol of “modesty,”
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Because it was not for that as shown in this and from comments from other people to me yesterday
http://www.esquire.com/style/mens-accessories/news/a52493/pussyhat-womens-march-protest-fashion/
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No one. Various organizations of various sizes and views are leading themselves. One person started the Women's March but she just made a post. She didn't make thousands of women respond.
No one is in charge. This is not an alternative fact. It's that little bit of reality that right wing authoritarian followers fear the most, I think.
People whose ventures into thinking go no further than being a cog in a hierarchical machine don't get the concept that not everyone is such a slave, and that crowds of independent humans could come together for a purpose without needing a leader to make it all happen or direct anyone's movements. We direct our own movements. There's no one "at the top" to attack. We're just the People of humane values who are not addled by right wing cognitive disease and who recognize the current threat of fascism for what it is.
I've only started looking at the background
There is an article which surprisingly comes from the NY Times which a colleague sent me by email.
I don't yet have any comments on it other than I would not put this sort of thing past Soros though I would like to see a direct source that show's where the money is coming from if it was true.
http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenint...0-partners-of-the-womens-march-on-washington/
Billionaire George Soros has ties to more than 50 ‘partners’ of the Women’s March on Washington
What is the link between one of Hillary Clinton’s largest donors and the Women’s March? Turns out, it’s quite significant
ASRA Q. NOMANI
01.20.17
Really? UniteWomen.org, another partner, features videos with the hashtags #ImWithHer, #DemsInPhily and #ThanksObama. Following the money, I pored through documents of billionaire George Soros and his Open Society philanthropy, because I wondered: What is the link between one of Hillary Clinton’s largest donors and the “Women’s March”?
I found out: plenty.
By my draft research, which I’m opening up for crowd-sourcing on GoogleDocs, Soros has funded, or has close relationships with, at least 56 of the march’s “partners,” including “key partners” Planned Parenthood, which opposes Trump’s anti-abortion policy, and the National Resource Defense Council, which opposes Trump’s environmental policies. The other Soros ties with “Women’s March” organizations include the partisan MoveOn.org (which was fiercely pro-Clinton), the National Action Network (which has a former executive director lauded by Obama senior advisor Valerie Jarrett as “a leader of tomorrow” as a march co-chair and another official as “the head of logistics”). Other Soros grantees who are “partners” in the march are the American Civil Liberties Union, Center for Constitutional Rights, Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. March organizers and the organizations identified here haven’t yet returned queries for comment.
On the issues I care about as a Muslim, the “Women’s March,” unfortunately, has taken a stand on the side of partisan politics that has obfuscated the issues of Islamic extremism over the eight years of the Obama administration. “Women’s March” partners include the Council on American-Islamic Relations, which has not only deflected on issues of Islamic extremism post-9/11, but opposes Muslim reforms that would allow women to be prayer leaders and pray in the front of mosques, without wearing headscarves as symbols of chastity. Partners also include the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), which wrongly designated Maajid Nawaz, a Muslim reformer, an “anti-Muslim extremist” in a biased report released before the election. The SPLC confirmed to me that Soros funded its “anti-Muslim extremists” report targeting Nawaz. (Ironically, CAIR also opposes abortions, but its leader still has a key speaking role.)
Another Soros grantee and march “partner” is the Arab-American Association of New York, whose executive director, Linda Sarsour, is a march co-chair. When I co-wrote a piece, arguing that Muslim women don’t have to wear headscarves as a symbol of “modesty,”
Oh no! He pulled the George Soros gun! RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!!!
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Didn't take long. Soros card is ALWAYS pulled.
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Which is a giant clue that your assumptions about the reasons why so many women marched last Saturday are faulty.
A BIG clue. "Women marched because they didn't like the election results."
"Women's march manifesto says something that doesn't match my conclusion."
"Therefore, the manifesto is non sequitur and stupid because it omits confirmation of my cartoon straw man. How dare those idiots say their motivations are not what my preconceived prejudices say they are."
Flunk.
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If you read what I was saying, I don't think there is anything wrong with protesting and there is nothing wrong with critical comments about these protests.
To be politically correct I call it constructive criticism.
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"Women marched because they didn't like the election results."
"Women's march manifesto says something that doesn't match my conclusion."
"Therefore, the manifesto is non sequitur and stupid because it omits confirmation of my cartoon straw man. How dare those idiots say their motivations are not what my preconceived prejudices say they are."
Flunk.
There you go again; don't be such a drama queen again; I said there's nothing wrong with protesting as such regardless of whose conclusion they agree or disagree with.
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Actually you have repeatedly referred to the women protesters as sheeple and bleating, you have made the false conclusion that they should be lobbying (as if they weren't and aren't) and finally, you pulled out the one of the bugaboos of the conservative loonisphere, George Soros. So, either you don't pay attention to what post or you are being intellectually dishonest. In either case, why should anyone pay attention to your posts?
"Women marched because they didn't like the election results."
"Women's march manifesto says something that doesn't match my conclusion."
"Therefore, the manifesto is non sequitur and stupid because it omits confirmation of my cartoon straw man. How dare those idiots say their motivations are not what my preconceived prejudices say they are."
Flunk.
There you go again; don't be such a drama queen again; I said there's nothing wrong with protesting as such regardless of whose conclusion they agree or disagree with.
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I'll believe the George Soros conspiracy the day my friends buy me beers with the checks they got from him for protesting.
"Women marched because they didn't like the election results."
"Women's march manifesto says something that doesn't match my conclusion."
"Therefore, the manifesto is non sequitur and stupid because it omits confirmation of my cartoon straw man. How dare those idiots say their motivations are not what my preconceived prejudices say they are."
Flunk.
There you go again; don't be such a drama queen again; I said there's nothing wrong with protesting as such regardless of whose conclusion they agree or disagree with.
Yeah, that totally hurts my feelings and effectively moves the conversation away from your inhumane, stunted ideology.
Do scientologists really still think this 4th grade trickery works?? Wait, wait, yes, of course they do. They think they can kill with a thought and levitate ashtrays.
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Lazy bastards can't even reach down to flick ashes?
It is such a warm comforting feeling to know that some superstitious (faux?) Brit has given permission to protest, don't you think?
Quite generous indeed.
I am surprised more people haven't moved to hold his feet to the fire on this. When he said the "you can grab them by the pussy line" he was talking about how rich and famous people can get away with such beyond the pale behavior. He was noting the power imbalance and how we let some get away with far more than we let others.
People have focused so much on the misogyny aspect of this that they haven't sought to hold his feet to the fire on the power imbalance and rich famous people getting away with rape and murder aspect. This should actually be an angle for the black lives matter folks and everyone else who cares about police and court double standards.
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The fact is that such behavior and far worse is excused by conservatives and members of the frat boy culture. Not confined to frat boys, btw. Trump ran because he was rich; his support is based on his wealth or 'wealth.' People who supported him truly do believe that he is just like them--only rich. He even talks put of his ass and distrusts science and math and anything he doesn't understand well.
You and most men would be shocked at just how common it is for women to have to fend off such 'minor' sexual assaults as being grabbed by (insert body part) or having a kiss, complete with tongue down the throat, forced on them--in a professional setting. It happened to me when I was 8 months pregnant, FFS and other times. And once, I nearly lost my job because I deflected a pass with mild--non-sexual non-demeaning humor and-witnesses laughed and kidded the guy who had been doing his best to make a pass at me. In public. At work. But I was punished because he was embarassed. It is really just background noise /the way men are for a lot of women. It's mot better now. My daughter nearly lost her job and was punished for reporting to the police a customer who flashed her, as he had done other female workers. Only one very mild example. The right pretends the left is upset at vulgar language and hypocritical for using worse language.
Yes, that should definitely be emphasized more, but with continued focus on the reality of misogyny in our culture and our so-called new leadership.
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Does Bill Clinton come into this at all ?