March for women. A message from Conservatives

[laughing dog]

To start:
1) abortion availability/legality,
2) current federal climate change initiatives to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and
3) maintain union rights.

1) and 2) I have hinted on plus immigration but this is to fuse illegal immigration with asylum seekers which would not be economically viable. 3) I am not too familiar with the history of this but have notices issues from time to time.

It doesn't answer the question why old issues were used in the marches.

Yes it does. They are afraid of losing the gains those areas.

 

[whichphilosophy]

The most informative post in the thread so far. I might quote it again later as well. lol

I wasn't informed at all. It was merely a second rate rant from a bunch of right on, entitled students and snowflakes.

The list is the manifesto of the Women's march but is mainly non-sequitur to the election results and why they don't like Trump.

 

[whichphilosophy]

1) and 2) I have hinted on plus immigration but this is to fuse illegal immigration with asylum seekers which would not be economically viable. 3) I am not too familiar with the history of this but have notices issues from time to time.

It doesn't answer the question why old issues were used in the marches.

Yes it does. They are afraid of losing the gains those areas.

These would be legitimate but fusing illegal immigration with asylum seekers is pure stupidity. There isn't any room.

 

[laughing dog]

Yes it does. They are afraid of losing the gains those areas.

These would be legitimate but fusing illegal immigration with asylum seekers is pure stupidity.

Your views on the wisdom of their fears is irrelevant. Fear of back-sliding plays a large role in their protest.

There isn't any room.

Utter nonsense. There is plenty of room in the USA.

 

[RavenSky]

So you are simply going to completely ignore facts and continue to maintain your fiction that "the real reason is to protest against Trump winning the election". You will engage in your typical goal post moving and red herring, and then later simply repeat your original falsehood as if none of the previous discussion ever took place.

Fine.

Not playing your idiotic games. You've been schooled. I don't care if you ignore it.

There are issues as I mentioned but those in themselves are insufficient to organise worldwide protests except those I highlighted.

human rights and environmental concerns are insufficient? huh.

If you say it is against him winning the election why time it for his inauguration?

AFTER is inauguration. Very specifically for AFTER for this very reason. Because it was NOT a protest of his inauguration like you keep trying to claim.

 

[Playball40]

From a conservative friend on Facebook today

Something a friend posted today: I found a lot of truth in this, for me...
"I am not a "disgrace to women" because I don't support the women's march. I do not feel I am a "second class citizen" because I am a woman. I do not feel my voice is "not heard" because I am a woman. I do not feel I am not provided opportunities in this life or in America because I am a woman. I do not feel that I "don't have control of my body or choices" because I am a woman. I do not feel like I am " not respected or undermined" because I am a woman.
I AM a woman.
I can make my own choices.
I can speak and be heard.
I can VOTE.
I can work if I want.
I control my body.
I can defend myself.
I can defend my family.
There is nothing stopping me to do anything in this world but MYSELF.
I do not blame my circumstances or problems on anything other than my own choices or even that sometimes in life, we don't always get what we want. I take responsibility for myself.
I am a mother, a daughter, a wife, a sister, a friend. I am not held back in life but only by the walls I choose to not go over which is a personal choice.
Quit blaming.
Take responsibility.
If you want to speak, do so. But do not expect for me, a woman, to take you seriously wearing a pink va-jay-jay hat on your head and screaming profanities and bashing men.
If you have beliefs, and speak to me in a kind matter, I will listen. But do not expect for me to change my beliefs to suit yours. Respect goes both ways.
If you want to impress me, especially in regards to women, then speak on the real injustices and tragedies that affect women in foreign countries that do not have the opportunity or means to have their voices heard.
Saudi Arabia, women can't drive, no rights and must always be covered.
China and India, infanticide of baby girls.
Afghanistan, unequal education rights.
Democratic Republic of Congo, where rapes are brutal and women are left to die, or HIV infected and left to care for children alone.
Mali, where women can not escape the torture of genital mutilation.
Pakistan, in tribal areas where women are gang raped to pay for men's crime.
Guatemala, the impoverished female underclass of Guatemala faces domestic violence, rape and the second-highest rate of HIV/AIDS after sub-Saharan Africa. An epidemic of gruesome unsolved murders has left hundreds of women dead, some of their bodies left with hate messages.
And that's just a few examples.
So when women get together in AMERICA and whine they don't have equal rights and they're marching in their clean clothes after eating a hearty breakfast, I have to shake my head. If you want to protest, and as long as it's peaceful have at it; I will not be there."

Thoughts?

SLD

They sound as brainwashed as some Saudi women who they claim to want to help. Ironic. Just because women are mistreated in other countries does NOT MEAN they arent mistreated right her in the good OL US of A. And how she "feels" doesn't equal reality.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Why do cries for women's rights end where Islam etc begins? It is a fair question.

The other fair point she makes, that has been skipped over in this thread, is in the polarization of all things political in the US.

Just because she disagrees women have it so bad in the USA doesn't make her a misogynist or hater of women, or stupid, much less a racist etc. She opens her rant with a clear frustration over some "with us or against us" rhetoric she has evidently been hearing. We see more of that in many of the straw filled posts in this thread attempting to paint views on her that she didn't express.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

These would be legitimate but fusing illegal immigration with asylum seekers is pure stupidity.

Your views on the wisdom of their fears is irrelevant. Fear of back-sliding plays a large role in their protest.

There isn't any room.

Utter nonsense. There is plenty of room in the USA.

How would he know, he is not from the USA...Or maybe this WP is?

 

[blastula]

I wasn't informed at all. It was merely a second rate rant from a bunch of right on, entitled students and snowflakes.

The list is the manifesto of the Women's march but is mainly non-sequitur to the election results and why they don't like Trump.

FFS, for one, Trump said he wants to overturn Roe, if you even know what that means. You are way too ignorant about the things you post most about. Do you get paid by the word?

 

[Toni]

The most informative post in the thread so far. I might quote it again later as well. lol

I wasn't informed at all. It was merely a second rate rant from a bunch of right on, entitled students and snowflakes.

Edit: with an incoherent ramble from an 80's has been pop star added on.

It is no surprise the grown ups ignore them.

Hunny, Ravensky can post it for you but she can't understand it for you.

 

[whichphilosophy]

Your views on the wisdom of their fears is irrelevant. Fear of back-sliding plays a large role in their protest.

There isn't any room.

Utter nonsense. There is plenty of room in the USA.

How would he know, he is not from the USA...Or maybe this WP is?

So are you agreeing the US can take any migrant from anywhere without any check (even their identity). How can it when it can't adequately care for its own poor??

 

[TSwizzle]

I wasn't informed at all. It was merely a second rate rant from a bunch of right on, entitled students and snowflakes.

Edit: with an incoherent ramble from an 80's has been pop star added on.

It is no surprise the grown ups ignore them.

Hunny, Ravensky can post it for you but she can't understand it for you.

Sweetheart, does your man know you are using the Internet ?

Jeezus fucking christ, put some fucking effort into your trolling.

 

[Angry Floof]

The most informative post in the thread so far. I might quote it again later as well. lol

I wasn't informed at all. It was merely a second rate rant from a bunch of right on, entitled students and snowflakes.

Edit: with an incoherent ramble from an 80's has been pop star added on.

It is no surprise the grown ups ignore them.

What part do you have issue with in particular? You can say they're snowflakes but that doesn't say anything about their views or motivations.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Your views on the wisdom of their fears is irrelevant. Fear of back-sliding plays a large role in their protest.

There isn't any room.

Utter nonsense. There is plenty of room in the USA.

How would he know, he is not from the USA...Or maybe this WP is?

So are you agreeing the US can take any migrant from anywhere without any check (even their identity). How can it when it can't adequately care for its own poor??

Nope. I don't eat red herrings.

 

[Ford]

 

[lpetrich]

From the OP:

Quit blaming.
Take responsibility.

To "After you" I wish to add: "After you and your friends stop blaming liberal perfidy and liberal depravity for everything bad in the world."

 

[lpetrich]

The Facebook post has made an excellent observation. Much more eloquent than the potty mouth 80s has been Madonna.

Why did you drag in Madonna?

Women's March: British and Canadian anti-Trump protesters denied entry to US by border guards | The Independent

'They took my phone and started going through my texts. They searched the car and then they asked the driver if he practised Islam and if he spoke Arabic.'

and

Joe Kroese, a British man studying in Montreal, told the Independent he was refused entry into the country after a border agent told him he was planning to attend a “potentially violent rally”.

There were reports of other groups of would-be protesters being denied entry into the US at a land crossing in Quebec after being searched, fingerprinted and photographed.

Mr Kroese, originally from Newcastle and studying at McGill University, said he was questioned by security staff for three hours at the border.

and

Montrealer Joseph Decunha was also turned away for “administrative reasons” after he told a border agent he planned to go to the inauguration and the Women’s March in Washington.

"The first thing he asked us point blank is, 'Are you anti- or pro-Trump? It felt like, if we had been pro-Trump, we would have absolutely been allowed entry,” he told the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.

Border agents told him that if he tried again to enter the US this weekend, he would be refused.

Sasha Dyck, of Montreal, reported a similar experience to the Guardian.

 

[TSwizzle]

The Independent? LOLZ !!

The Guardian? On the floor lolz !!!

 

[ZiprHead]

The Independent? LOLZ !!

The Guardian? On the floor lolz !!!

TSwizzle. Shit poster extraordinaire.

 

[Rhea]

The speaker tore up a copy of the Washington Post stating Hilary had won the election. (The Washington Post is of course I can't remember the persons name. He's been on TV and is in his 60s with glasses and shaggy hair Not well dressed. I may find his details at some point.

You have made the terrible error of thinking that one speaker got up and said the one thing that 500,000 marchers all came to hear. The unifying and driving purpose.

How ridiculous.


Really, don't you feel kind of stupid having said that?

of the 500,000 people who went, not a single one of us, I would lay odds, not ONE, was there because of something a celebrity had said.

I was there in DC. I was there all day. The crowd was so massive that I never heard anything uttered from the stage. I never saw the stage. I spent my time, holding the sign I had made before hearing which celebrities were even there, I spent my time interacting with other marchers. I did see about 2 minutes of somebody from the edge of a jumbotron and heard them singing something. But other than that, the joys were in the people. Oh, and it was so joyful. It was about building and growing and creating. It was about taking care to watch Trump and make sure he doesn't bring harm.


So instead of pronouncing why we all marched, would it make incredible sense to just ask us? Instead of telling us why we marched.

It's hilariously, eyepoppingly stereotypical of you to be telling us what we did, and what we were thinking while we did it, and then arguing with us when we say what our motivations were.

Don't you feel the least bit idiotic for doing that?