Immigration Issues

[blastula]

 

[Elixir]

The rejection of the policy has been overwhelming — and driven by judges of all ideologies. While the 28 judges who have backed the admin’s view are, with a few exceptions, Trump appointees.

So either Trumpsucking judges are political hacks, or Trump is the six dimensional chess master whose genius is so far beyond anything anyone ever dreamed of, that we mortals cannot fathom the depths of their insights* any more than most non-trumpsucker judges can.

* where "insights" and "corruption" are synonymous

 

[Toni]

Job done.

The immigration crackdown in Minnesota that led to mass detentions, protests and two deaths is coming to an end, border czar Tom Homan said Thursday. "As a result of our efforts here Minnesota is now less of a sanctuary state for criminals," Homan said at a news conference. "I have proposed and President Trump has concurred, that this surge operation conclude," he continued.

News

I wonder what the blue haired, tattooed/pierced lesbians/lgbqt, soccer moms and cat ladies are going to do with their day now. Back to watching The View I guess.

You’ve written a lot of ignorant, misogynistic, racist claptrap in your time here but at least in this case it is easy to understand: You believe Tom Horman. Tom
homan who must publicly defend his job, the existence of the agency he heads and stay on the right side ( yes. I wrote right and not correct) of Dear Leader in order to continue to exist.

There is no doubt that immigrants or really, any person who crosses the US border—or any border, first that matter, do sometimes commit crimes. Occasionally very terrible crimes. Just like every other human being on the planet, however, as a group, they commit far fewer crimes than the permanent population

 

[TSwizzle]

Job done.

The immigration crackdown in Minnesota that led to mass detentions, protests and two deaths is coming to an end, border czar Tom Homan said Thursday. "As a result of our efforts here Minnesota is now less of a sanctuary state for criminals," Homan said at a news conference. "I have proposed and President Trump has concurred, that this surge operation conclude," he continued.

News

I wonder what the blue haired, tattooed/pierced lesbians/lgbqt, soccer moms and cat ladies are going to do with their day now. Back to watching The View I guess.

You’ve written a lot of ignorant, misogynistic, racist claptrap in your time here

Sure, Jan.

but at least in this case it is easy to understand: You believe Tom Horman. Tom
homan who must publicly defend his job, the existence of the agency he heads and stay on the right side ( yes. I wrote right and not correct) of Dear Leader in order to continue to exist.

I have no reason not to believe it. Do you have information to the contrary?

There is no doubt that immigrants or really, any person who crosses the US border—or any border, first that matter, do sometimes commit crimes. Occasionally very terrible crimes. Just like every other human being on the planet, however, as a group, they commit far fewer crimes than the permanent population

The crimes immigrants commit are only part of the problem, probably a small part at that. However, millions of people entered the USA illegally on Brandon's watch and they are going to be removed where necessary, along with any other people that have no right to be in the USA. That is what the law calls for as stated by many presidents, not just Trump.

 

[bilby]

millions of people entered the USA illegally on Brandon's watch and they are going to be removed where necessary,

You maybe mean "they should be", indicating that this is your opinion. "they are going to be" indicates that you think yourself a seer or prophet who knows the future, and hence makes you look like a blithering idiot.

along with any other people that have no right to be in the USA.

Who do you think has "no right to be in the USA", but did not enter the USA illegally?

Be specific.

 

[Toni]

Job done.

The immigration crackdown in Minnesota that led to mass detentions, protests and two deaths is coming to an end, border czar Tom Homan said Thursday. "As a result of our efforts here Minnesota is now less of a sanctuary state for criminals," Homan said at a news conference. "I have proposed and President Trump has concurred, that this surge operation conclude," he continued.

News

I wonder what the blue haired, tattooed/pierced lesbians/lgbqt, soccer moms and cat ladies are going to do with their day now. Back to watching The View I guess.

You’ve written a lot of ignorant, misogynistic, racist claptrap in your time here

Sure, Jan.

but at least in this case it is easy to understand: You believe Tom Horman. Tom
homan who must publicly defend his job, the existence of the agency he heads and stay on the right side ( yes. I wrote right and not correct) of Dear Leader in order to continue to exist.

I have no reason not to believe it. Do you have information to the contrary?

There is no doubt that immigrants or really, any person who crosses the US border—or any border, first that matter, do sometimes commit crimes. Occasionally very terrible crimes. Just like every other human being on the planet, however, as a group, they commit far fewer crimes than the permanent population

The crimes immigrants commit are only part of the problem, probably a small part at that. However, millions of people entered the USA illegally on Brandon's watch and they are going to be removed where necessary, along with any other people that have no right to be in the USA. That is what the law calls for as stated by many presidents, not just Trump.

Do you know why there was a surge of border crossings when Biden was POTUS? COVID halted a lot of travel, period. People were not traveling much, anywhere. There was a lot of pent up demand/need to cross borders into the US when travel opened up.

Don’t realize that most of the so-called ‘illegals’ in the US are because of individuals who overstay their visas?

What do you see as the bigger problem with undivided Ted people crossing the borders into the US?

 

[TSwizzle]

Do you know why there was a surge of border crossings when Biden was POTUS? COVID halted a lot of travel, period. People were not traveling much, anywhere. There was a lot of pent up demand/need to cross borders into the US when travel opened up.

Sure, Jan.

Don’t realize that most of the so-called ‘illegals’ in the US are because of individuals who overstay their visas?

Most? It was estimated around 11 million people crossed illegally into the USA on Brandon’s watch.

What do you see as the bigger problem with undivided Ted people crossing the borders into the US?

??

 

[Jarhyn]

What do you see as the bigger problem with undivided Ted people crossing the borders into the US?

??

"Uninvited"

It's not that hard "Jan".

 

[barbos]

Do you know why there was a surge of border crossings when Biden was POTUS? COVID halted a lot of travel, period. People were not traveling much, anywhere. There was a lot of pent up demand/need to cross borders into the US when travel opened up.

Yeah, these were all wealthy tourists wanting to visit America.

 

[ZiprHead]

homan who must publicly defend his job, the existence of the agency he heads and stay on the right side ( yes. I wrote right and not correct) of Dear Leader in order to continue to exist.

I figure that is why he was hired in the first place. Do trump's bidding or the bribery prosecution will be started back up.

 

[Jarhyn]

What do you see as the bigger problem with undivided Ted people crossing the borders into the US?

??

"Uninvited"

It's not that hard "Jan".

... So will you answer the question now?

 

[GenesisNemesis]

What do you see as the bigger problem with undivided Ted people crossing the borders into the US?

??

"Uninvited"

It's not that hard "Jan".

... So will you answer the question now?

Nope. It's all just eye rolls and whining about blue hair and lesbians.

 

[Toni]

Do you know why there was a surge of border crossings when Biden was POTUS? COVID halted a lot of travel, period. People were not traveling much, anywhere. There was a lot of pent up demand/need to cross borders into the US when travel opened up.

Yeah, these were all wealthy tourists wanting to visit America.

One of the most ignorant posts I’ve seen you make….

 

[Elixir]

One of the most ignorant posts I’ve seen you make….

Well then, you haven’t been paying full attention! When it comes to stupid ignorant posts, few if any can rival those of our private pet Putinista.

 

[barbos]

Do you know why there was a surge of border crossings when Biden was POTUS? COVID halted a lot of travel, period. People were not traveling much, anywhere. There was a lot of pent up demand/need to cross borders into the US when travel opened up.

Yeah, these were all wealthy tourists wanting to visit America.

One of the most ignorant posts I’ve seen you make….

Please elaborate, don't be shy.

 

[unapologetic]

why should we presume he intends to use them for interning people?

Because that is exactly what they've done.

but they are not good reasons to deduce that most of the detainees are here legally.

Doesn't need to be 'most' to apply.

is a policy position, not a scientific principle.

It has long been known that 'the law' is not a science. Neither is politics.

Could prisoners get out of Dachau by agreeing to leave Germany?

Do you seriously think anyone got out of our camps that way?

when you come home and find a stranger asleep on your couch so you call the police,

I have heard of those cases (mostly in the UK). The police did nothing, because of 'squater's rights'.

Do you think about 90% of the inmates are citizens or have green cards?

The percentage is irrelevant.
It needs to be ZERO citizens or card holders.

the presumption of innocence is a scientific discovery of anthropologists?!? It is a normative principle that evolved to serve the goal of preventing tyranny.

We are faceing the rise of a tyrant. We need to fight for 'the presumption of innocence', NOW more than ever.

Historically, mankind has had laws ...

Fuck history. Concentrate on the here and now.

That doesn't look like Minnesota.

It didn't claim it was.

Of course AA isn't simply for housing suspected undocumented people -- if it were just that, it would be a New York City public housing project.

And if we finish that thought, that is why it wouldn't be insane or crazy to consider it a "concentration camp". The analogy is far from perfect, very flawed, but it isn't hyperbole either. Your post explains why... without actually explaining it. "Could prisoners get out of Dachau by agreeing to leave Germany?" Subjecting people to conditions to encourage them to leave the country is very anti-America. It violates the Constitution and the generalized basis of Western Law.

I agree

Keep moving those goal posts, bad faith

The thread is "immigration issues" So what exactly do you imagine are the goals?
Are they moving or are you shrinking them?

... then that would directly imply that nobody was ever imprisoned for breaking laws until due process and the presumption of innocence were established.

Yhat's a strech.

 

[Toni]

What do you see as the bigger problem with undivided Ted people crossing the borders into the US?

??

"Uninvited"

It's not that hard "Jan".

I meant undocumented. My typing is bad and my phone is evil.

 

[TSwizzle]

Do you know why there was a surge of border crossings when Biden was POTUS? COVID halted a lot of travel, period. People were not traveling much, anywhere. There was a lot of pent up demand/need to cross borders into the US when travel opened up.

Yeah, these were all wealthy tourists wanting to visit America.

One of the most ignorant posts I’ve seen you make….

I thought it was hilarious

 

[robnisch]

In 1850 14% of the population were immigrants.
Birth rates are 1.6 per couple.
2.6 is needed to have stable growth.
Immigrants have a lower crime rate.
Their children have a higher income than native born.
Like it or not we need a system that works for everyone.

 

[unapologetic]

Hit the Road, Ice!