George Zimmerman Arrested On Domestic Violence And Weapons Charge

[Nice Squirrel]

Maybe you ought to be in case there is Zimmerman wannabe around.

Nope, not worried about. Much more worried about burglars and them breaking in and stealing my stuff.

You have a problem with burglars?

 

[fromderinside]

Nope, not worried about. Much more worried about burglars and them breaking in and stealing my stuff.

You have a problem with burglars?

Nope. Burglars just take stuff. Stuff is replaceable, even desirably so given the breakneck speed of technology.

Knowing people who have guns in their homes worried me when I had children. Now that the kids have to look out for themselves I don't worry so much. I consider gun owners stupid lazy people who are unwilling to trust anything, pay for food, or, consider the other guy.

 

[coloradoatheist]

Nope, not worried about. Much more worried about burglars and them breaking in and stealing my stuff.

You have a problem with burglars?

How many burglaries are committed in a year compared to the number of Zimmerman incidents?

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You have a problem with burglars?

Nope. Burglars just take stuff. Stuff is replaceable, even desirably so given the breakneck speed of technology.

Knowing people who have guns in their homes worried me when I had children. Now that the kids have to look out for themselves I don't worry so much. I consider gun owners stupid lazy people who are unwilling to trust anything, pay for food, or, consider the other guy.

Not all stuff is replaceable and it's a painful process that can be very costly for the person having stuff taken from them. I think is is a dividing issue that rightwing folks think personal property can be protected from criminals.

 

[fromderinside]

I think it is a dividing issue that right wing folks think personal property can be protected from criminals.

Sure. Unfortunately right wingers don't want to be required to be fair, pay for it, or take necessary precautions.

 

[coloradoatheist]

I think it is a dividing issue that right wing folks think personal property can be protected from criminals.

Sure. Unfortunately right wingers don't want to be required to be fair, pay for it, or take necessary precautions.

In which way?

 

[semiopen]

Pollock was speaking about Zimmerman's MMA fighting skills, not his muscle tone. Pollock testified that Zimmerman lost weight and got in shape during the time he spent at the gym.

Just wondering how you would rate Martin's athletic prowess. Does he get an automatic 8 because he's, well, you know..... "naturally gifted"? Or does he also get a 1 because he didn't train 3 times a week at a MMA gym for 2 years, like Zimmerman did?

Pollock's testimony was completely non-credible.

However he was white and therefore we see it accepted. Meanwhile Rachel Jeantel had ear witness testimony that was more credible than Pollock's. But being black etc her testimony was totally disregarded.

It really is hard to take the prejudice issue out of the discussion.

 

[Nexus]

It does seem like a leap to assume he must have grabbed Martin, yet I submit that it remains a possibility.

Considering all the other people Zimmerman has attacked both past and future its not a leap at all to think he attacked that night as well.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

You have a problem with burglars?

How many burglaries are committed in a year compared to the number of Zimmerman incidents?

In Florida? According to Loren, they probably sank to zero after Martin died.

 

[Rhea]

It does seem like a leap to assume he must have grabbed Martin, yet I submit that it remains a possibility.

Considering all the other people Zimmerman has attacked both past and future its not a leap at all to think he attacked that night as well.

Indeed.
When Zimmerman saw his friends getting bounced, he got angry and attacked a(n undercover) cop.
When Zimmerman got angry at the drunk woman, he attacked and threw her to the ground.
When Zimmerman saw his father in law videoing him, he attacked and smahed the ipad.
When Zimmerman got angry at his girlfriend, he attacked and smashed at table in her face
I know I have missed several; his first wife, and after the murder some guy he said he was going to kill.
And what's today's charge now?
Oh, yes, he attacked his current girlfriend.
(for the record is there any woman with whom he has had a relationship that he has not attacked?)


It really does lead one to question whether he's the type of guy who might attack someone he's already called a bad guy. One is so unsure in these situations, isn't one?

 

[Rhea]

Pollock was speaking about Zimmerman's MMA fighting skills, not his muscle tone. Pollock testified that Zimmerman lost weight and got in shape during the time he spent at the gym.

Just wondering how you would rate Martin's athletic prowess. Does he get an automatic 8 because he's, well, you know..... "naturally gifted"? Or does he also get a 1 because he didn't train 3 times a week at a MMA gym for 2 years, like Zimmerman did?

Pollock's testimony was completely non-credible.

However he was white and therefore we see it accepted. Meanwhile Rachel Jeantel had ear witness testimony that was more credible than Pollock's. But being black etc her testimony was totally disregarded.

It really is hard to take the prejudice issue out of the discussion.

This is a good point. Would his buddy at the center have any incentive, any at all, to downplay Zimmerman's prowess? Would it help his client or hurt him to be called a vicious predator? Hmmmm.

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And speaking of not credible, something else crossed my mind today as I juxtaposed the comments all making Zimmerman "reasonable" for noticing the kid who "didn't belong" and "looked just like the burglars."

As I recall from the photos in the community with folks walking about, quite a number of them are black. So lots of the residents of the community would "fit the description" unless Zimmerman knew that they were residents. There are a large number of units in there. Did he target them all? Maybe this is why he was constantly calling 911. And this would be another reason why it is not reasonable for him to think he should get out of his truck to follow or detain. Assuming all your neighbors' kids are thugs is no sane way to go through life.

Or does he claim to know who is a resident and who is not? And if he claims to know who belongs, they why on earth does he have to look for a street sign to know what street he's on!?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

There have been many examples reported of widespread under-reporting to make the stats look good.

Can you source this claim?

Why does everyone keep asking for sources on things that have been discussed on here before?

Google hit #1:

http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc_21_4/tsc_21_4_oltman.shtml

(Note that this is discussing both crimes that are not reported and cops playing games with the numbers when they are reported.)

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Here's another point. Martin wrote "WTF" on the inside of his locker, maybe smoked weed, and for that...he gets suspended?

What the hell?

We're supposed to be trying to keep kids *in* class, not looking for reasons to throw them out.

I do agree we don't handle punishment correctly. That has no bearing on the issue, though.

 

[scombrid]

..nevermind..

 

[Mumbles]

Here's another point. Martin wrote "WTF" on the inside of his locker, maybe smoked weed, and for that...he gets suspended?

What the hell?

We're supposed to be trying to keep kids *in* class, not looking for reasons to throw them out.

I do agree we don't handle punishment correctly. That has no bearing on the issue, though.

No, the issue here is a guy with a long history of violence and aggression, who somehow has people representing him.

 

[fromderinside]

Hey key holder, where's the key. Throw it!

 

[Deepak]

Pollock's testimony was completely non-credible.

However he was white and therefore we see it accepted. Meanwhile Rachel Jeantel had ear witness testimony that was more credible than Pollock's. But being black etc her testimony was totally disregarded.

It really is hard to take the prejudice issue out of the discussion.

This is a good point. Would his buddy at the center have any incentive, any at all, to downplay Zimmerman's prowess? Would it help his client or hurt him to be called a vicious predator? Hmmmm.

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And speaking of not credible, something else crossed my mind today as I juxtaposed the comments all making Zimmerman "reasonable" for noticing the kid who "didn't belong" and "looked just like the burglars."

As I recall from the photos in the community with folks walking about, quite a number of them are black. So lots of the residents of the community would "fit the description" unless Zimmerman knew that they were residents. There are a large number of units in there. Did he target them all? Maybe this is why he was constantly calling 911. And this would be another reason why it is not reasonable for him to think he should get out of his truck to follow or detain. Assuming all your neighbors' kids are thugs is no sane way to go through life.

Or does he claim to know who is a resident and who is not? And if he claims to know who belongs, they why on earth does he have to look for a street sign to know what street he's on!?

Ultimately - his prowess is irrelevant in my opinion. What's more important is that history of attacks, his having taken MMA training, and his characterizing TM as a 'bad guy'. The guy could objectively been worse than 1/10 but his perceptions of his own capabilities are what are more important.

We know he was a self-appointed neighborhood watch captain, and we know he wanted to be a cop.

What better way to improve his odds than catching one of those bad guys who always get away?

Can you source this claim?

Why does everyone keep asking for sources on things that have been discussed on here before?

Google hit #1:

http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc_21_4/tsc_21_4_oltman.shtml

(Note that this is discussing both crimes that are not reported and cops playing games with the numbers when they are reported.)

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I'll take a look when I get home... maybe.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

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I'll take a look when I get home... maybe.

It's good for a chuckle.

Gang graffiti, a clear indication of serious criminal activity

The newest area of underreporting is with regard to illegal alien crime.

Anchor babies, the children born to illegal aliens, have added demographic fuel to crime in the country.

"add girl-gangs to the equation."

I knew it. Punk rock girls on roller-skates!

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[ksen]

Keep talking guys, my mind is still open to all possibilities about the demon-baby, thug Martin and everyman Zimmerman situation.

 

[Deepak]

I'll take a look when I get home... maybe.

It's good for a chuckle.

Gang graffiti, a clear indication of serious criminal activity

"add girl-gangs to the equation."

I knew it. Punk rock girls on roller-skates!

Do they have pictures??

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Do they have pictures??

No,
But here are the London Roller Girls: